As more and more artists commit to podcast appearances as part of their usual media relations duties, more and more tensions have begun to arise between interview subjects and the more-or-less unregulated space. While podcasts have been notorious for sparking viral moments like the tet-a-tet between Kanye West and Big Sean on opposing episodes of Drink Champs, sometimes these interviews touch on broader issues like the double standards between men and women, resulting in moments that highlight just how podcast hosts can violate boundaries.
A recent example arose today, as Ari Lennox trended on Twitter due to her response to a recent podcast interview that left her vowing to eschew any future appearances in South Africa as a result of a host’s disrespect. During an interview with Johannesburg-based show, Podcast And Chill With Mac G, Ari was visibly distraught by the host’s question, “Is somebody f*cking you good right now?” “That’s a wild question,” she responded. “Why ask it that way?” While Mac G advised her that he was quoting one of her own songs, she was less than enthused about it in hindsight, finally responding two days later with her unfiltered thoughts on her treatment.
That’s @MacGUnleashed for yah ? ? @AriLennox didnt see this one coming.#podcastandchillwirhMacg pic.twitter.com/4DfDEGaUBQ
— Oración (@Es_oracion_) January 18, 2022
“I’m just like… why was I alone on a call full of people?” she wondered on Twitter. “Why didn’t anyone intervene? And why wasn’t parts of the interview destroyed like the team promised? Why did it happen to begin with? I just feel slow and ambushed and blindsighted. Just because I happily and freely sing/write about sex don’t make any kind of creepy disrespect warranted. I clearly was in immense shock and hate that I didn’t react differently.”
I’m just like… why was I alone on a call full of people? Why didn’t anyone intervene? And why wasn’t parts of the interview destroyed like the team promised? Why did it happen to begin with? I just feel slow and ambushed and blindsighted.
— Ari Lennox (@AriLennox) January 21, 2022
Just because I happily and freely sing/write about sex don’t make any kind of creepy disrespect warranted. I clearly was in immense shock and hate that I didn’t react differently.
— Ari Lennox (@AriLennox) January 21, 2022
But fuck it! I don’t want anyone feeling sorry for me. I’m tired of the narrative. Exhausted. I’m good I promise. But as for interviews I’m not doing them anymore. There’s enough lives and interviews out there already.
— Ari Lennox (@AriLennox) January 21, 2022
Although she pointed out that she doesn’t “want anyone feeling sorry for me,” she was quickly bombarded with messages blaming her for the line of questioning. When one reply read, “If you hate being treated like a piece of meat then stop marketing yourself as a butchery,” Ari expressed her wish never to visit the country. “South Africa! Y’all got it!!! Heard you loud and clear. This won’t be a place I will ever visit. Really got grown men justifying rape and predatory culture. Disgusting.” As responses kept coming in, she shut down the number-one criticism she’d received. “No rebranding necessary you misogynistic bitch!” she said. “I enjoy how I express myself in my music.”
South Africa! Y’all got it!!! Heard you loud and clear. This won’t be a place I will ever visit. https://t.co/cnDShDQQRb
— Ari Lennox (@AriLennox) January 21, 2022
Really got grown men justifying rape and predatory culture. Disgusting
— Ari Lennox (@AriLennox) January 21, 2022
No rebranding necessary you misogynistic bitch! I enjoy how I express myself in my music. Thanks https://t.co/BXcWGLHjPx
— Ari Lennox (@AriLennox) January 21, 2022
Ari’s no stranger to misogynistic tweets. In 2020, she sparked another debate about the treatment of Black women and obnoxious beauty standards when a commenter compared her to a rottweiler. Fortunately, she’s got new music on the way in 2022, which should give people something else to talk about.
That MacG/Ari Lennox clip is disgusting. That isn’t how you interview someone, its wildly disrespectful and very inappropriate. People really have to stop being nasty for clicks. (You can search it if you don’t know what I’m talking about. I won’t be posting it)
— Richie Brave (@RichieBrave) January 21, 2022
SA gents made Ari Lennox fear the South African streets just from interacting on social media. Imagine how worse it is for us who live with them??
— XIX.I.XXXX? (@SihleTumani) January 21, 2022
Ari Lennox comments about the offensive question she was asked in an interview with MacG of #PodcastAndChill… And before we even debate about it. If she feels offended. She is 100% right. No one. I mean NO ONE has the right to argue otherwise.
— Bekithemba Zulu ?? (@BekithembaZ) January 21, 2022
Anyone who thinks Ari Lennox could’ve said something if it bothered her has clearly never been in an uncomfortable situation.
— m. (@palesa_moloto) January 21, 2022
You really think 6x Grammy Nominated Ari Lennox needs marketing help from MacG????? https://t.co/SV4APwu0Cn
— MPHO ? (@MphoMoalamedi) January 21, 2022
Ari Lennox is going through that phase where you responded graceful to an uncomfortable situation and with time the reality of actually being sexualized hits you. You’re not even sure if you were at fault or the person was really wrong and you’re just confused & hurt
I hate men.
— XIX.I.XXXX? (@SihleTumani) January 21, 2022
This reasoning of how Ari Lennox can’t feel violated by the MacG question bc she sings about sex is kinda the same as saying a woman can’t feel violated by cat calling etc bc she wears revealing clothing out in public ☹️
— Big Strapper (@Liqhayiya_n) January 21, 2022